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Default A few things you should know about the Splendor - WARNING!!!

I returned from the Splendor 10/11/09. There are several "new" Carnival policies that were enacted aboard this ship. I do not know if these are fleetwide or just Splendor specific for various reasons.

No more free drinks/H'or Dourves during the Captain's Party. You now get $1 off the price of your drinks. I thought this tacky.

The ship is almost entirely smoke free

The drinks are now over $10 each in most of the bars/venues

Carnival has all sorts of offer and promotions to try to get people committed to another cruise.

The menu in the dining room seemed just a bit scaled down with some dishes prepared in a more "economical" fashion.

Only the gym equipment is available to the full passenger load. The hot tub, sauna, steam room are only for "Spa" customers at an additional cost of $149. The lockers made available to non-Spa customers were sorely lacking.

The crew seemed noticeably less interested in the passengers than I have experienced on other cruises. They seem to just go through the motions which is surprising for such a new ship.

MORE IMPORTANTLY. . .

If you fall into any of the following categories, you may want to think long and hard about cruising on the Splendor:

Smokers
There is no smoking on Lido deck. the only place you can smoke outside is the back of Deck 10 which cuts you off from ALL outside activity, music and the rest of the passengers. most smokers on the Splendor were incised and promised never to return.

If you enjoy sitting on the smoking side of the Lido and watching the TV, games and enjoying the comraderie, pass this ship by. I understand that the Dream will be pretty much the same.

Late Night Party People
At least 70% of the passengers were over 60. The average age of the passengers on this ship was perhaps 70. There were no large groups or organizations to explain the large number of older passengers (at least half of the passengers were over 70). I came to the conclusion that it is partly due to the economy in So Cal. Because of the age of a majority of the passengers, this ship was asleep tight by midnight each night.

If you want a lively, rah-rah environment that goes well into the night, pass this ship up.

Any Minority Group
There is no diversity in the passenger load. I would guess that the ratio is at least 97% white, 3% everything else. There was no large groups to explain this away. I spoke to someone in Mazatlan who was cruising on a NCL ship doing our same itinerary and they said it was the same on their ship. Hence, I take it that this is just a sampling of who cruises out of California. Of the 3,400 passengers, there were not more than 30 African American, surely less than 50 Latinos and a handful of other ethnic groups. Unless you truly do not mind being the sole minority in each and every setting and situation, this is not the cruise for you. (I had some people on that ship say some truly ignorant things to me. Both offensive and ignorant.)

Those Looking For the Usual Carnival Comraderie
I don't know if it is norm for California or the West Coast but other passengers I spoke to on this cruise mentioned that there was none of the usual friendly comraderie among the passengers. Most were very nice but by unspoken rule (custom?) most passengers stayed to themselves and you did not see a lot of cross chatter or interaction. I didn't notice this until my tablemates (who were all great btw) brought this phenom up during dinner.

All in all this is a much different cruise experience than what I have had cruising from the East Coast. For my vacation time and $$, I will stick with my Florida/New York/Puerto Rico ports of embarkation and leave California alone.

Finally, from my observation and my past Carnival cruise experience, there is no way, no how this ship is turning a profit. Too much of what makes these ships money was sorely lacking on the Splendor. I would not be surprised if this ship is not repositioned over to the East Coast within the next 18 months or so. It is not reaching it true potential as it is currently stationed.

P.S. Please do not debate me on my observations. They are only my experience and are not up for debate. This is what I saw. This is what I experienced and this is what I took from it.

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Old October 13th, 2009, 08:39 AM
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I won't disagree with your observations and experience. I also think the information on the smoking areas of the ship is important. I had heard about the captian's cocktail party change. I'm very disappointed with that. Just so other people realize the captian's cocktail party changes are fleetwide and not just on the Splendor. Did you notice a farewell party on the last night? I have heard that party has free drinks. I'm just wondering if you attended it and can confirm this.

I'm not disagreeing with your experience, but I will say that I feel some of your experiences were unusual. I have cruised from the west coast 5 times 3 out of Long Beach/San Pedro, 1 out of San Francisco, and 1 out of San Diego. The age group you describe is not the normal group I have cruised with on Carnival for the Mexican sailings. There is quite a bit of diversity in California. I'm surprised to hear it was not reflected on the ship. With an older age group I'm not surprised the ship was quiet at midnight. I cruised Celebrity Infinity and had a similar experience. I'm a party person so I was disappointed with my Infinity cruise because of this. Sorry to hear your cruise wasn't all you hoped it would be.
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Yep, you're right about the "Captains Cocktail Party", and the "Farewell Party". No more free drinks at the former, but the "Farewell Party" was pretty much like we are accustomed to, with the free drinks, etc. Yes, this is a fleetwide decision by Carnival, and yes, I too think it sucks, even though the lovely Mrs. Jones and I rarely attend either of those events.
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I too am sorry that the cruise wasn't as enjoyable as it could be . In addition to the Captain's Cocktail Party was there a "Past Cruisers Cocktail Party" or is that what you meant by the Captain's Party? We sailed on the Liberty out of Miami in Aug and the diversity in the passenger load was just the opposite of what you experienced. I would say that the breakdown was 50% black, 35% Latino and Hispanic and the remainder white. And there was a lot of wonderful late night revelry throughout the ship. We will be on the Miracle in Nov and also the Imagination in November. I'll see what develops on those cruises and report back here. Again sorry the cruise wasn't enjoyable.
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Sorry to hear you were not totally happy with your cruise experience on the Splendor. As far as smoking on the Dream is concerned, it is allowed on the Port side of the ship which would include the Port side of the wraparound deck on Promenade but I don't know if it is banned on the Lido deck. Also, smoking is allowed in the casino but only in a designated area. Maybe someone can help us out with this question.

I too was aware of Carnival's decision not to provide free alcoholic beverages at the Captain's Cocktail Party but discount them by $1.00 at all bars. I heard also about the free cocktails at the farewell party, can anyone out there verify this??

Because I live in Florida and can avail myself of a multitude of ports to sail out of and a variety of ships to sail on, there is no reason for me to travel to California to cruise.

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We were just on the Valor and can report that yes the Captain's Cocktail Party is $1 off any drink, yes there was Past Passenger party that had free drinks with hor derves (sp) and that yes the farewell cocktail party on the last night had free drinks.

The passenger load on our cruise was a very good mix with a lot of non Americans. With the changes for foreigners entering the US customs/immigration was terrible. I hope that it was the way CBP in Miami handled it, there were no set lines for Americans so if the family in front of you was from another country it took a while for all of them to be photod and finger printed.

On the Valor smoking was allowed on the starboard side of open decks except for the sports deck. And as far as I could see allowed anywhere in the casino, we did not spend much time there.
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Sounds like we should have swapped cruises. We were on the Valor a couple of weeks ago and the parties were just getting started at 10:00. There were activities scheduled until 1:30 am and many kept going after that. We’re not big on parties so we were usually in bed by 11:00.

A larger than usual European crowd meant more smoking than we had seen before. The nice thing is that the ship was big enough and could accommodate the experiences everyone wanted to have.

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Well, things were a bit different on the Liberty last week...our table mates filled up on so many tasty tidbits and drinks at the party, they skipped dinner that night..

On the lido, half the deck was smoking....on the every night menu, you could not get a strip steak anymore, and "flat iron steak was there....one thing I did notice missing was, there were no kleenex boxes, in the rest rooms...many may not have even noticed, but I always used to grab a few....guess cutbacks are everywhere..just a sign of the time...no punch either.
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thanks IBCRUIZIN for your feedback !
My next cruise is the Splendor to Mexico. Since I got a great deal I'm not going expecting everything to be perfect.
Friendliness & camaraderie: Like many solo passengers I NEED this more than some. A couple can hang out together but I get lonely if I keep to myself. Hopefully I'll have better luck.
age of fellow passengers: I think much of that depends on the ports. Being 45 I'm on the younger end on Alaska and New England/Canada. The Caribbean had many more younger people. On my Alaskan and New England/Canada cruises, the party did die down around midnight.
After that, my song was "dancing with myself " !!
Spa: I'm NOT surprised that the cruise line is nickle & dime-ing about this new "Cloud 9" spa deck. They are attempting to sell it as a big deal
but the whole thing seems a bit odd to me.
no free drinks: that doesn't surprise me either. Since I don't drink alcohol maybe it won't be such a bit difference with me. Maybe the fruit punch will still be complementary.
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Thoth good question. Did Carnival Finally get the Fruit Punch back on the cruise ships? I love the fruit punch.
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Interesting observations. The Carnival policy issues are in line with what's been discussed on this and other boards, so no surprises there. However, the other observations appear to be a bit skewed and not the typical Carnival cruise experience.
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Thoth good question. Did Carnival Finally get the Fruit Punch back on the cruise ships? I love the fruit punch.
Sorry Kat, no fruit punch on my trip 2 weeks ago.
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Katlady, I only saw Fruit Punch at the past passenger and farewell parties.
This wason the valor last week.
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No argument here all of us have different experiences.
I am sorry to hear about your experiences... my sis and I enjoyed quite the opposite experience... in fact, we did get the free coctails and both the captain's party and past guest party.
We must have been one of the last cruised to get that. But then again, I don't recall a farewell party either, and if memory serves me correctly, the coctails at the farewell party were instead of the captains party.
The only drink I had that was $10 was a martini of some sort... I can't recall which one now... but we had drink coupons and we only had to sign twice for an additional fee.

Darn I was so hoping everyone here would have as good a time as we did. But I've never been on the east coast so I don't have that to look forward to... I will some day.

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I returned from the Splendor 10/11/09. There are several "new" Carnival policies that were enacted aboard this ship. I do not know if these are fleetwide or just Splendor specific for various reasons.

No more free drinks/H'or Dourves during the Captain's Party. You now get $1 off the price of your drinks. I thought this tacky.

The ship is almost entirely smoke free

The drinks are now over $10 each in most of the bars/venues

Carnival has all sorts of offer and promotions to try to get people committed to another cruise.

The menu in the dining room seemed just a bit scaled down with some dishes prepared in a more "economical" fashion.

Only the gym equipment is available to the full passenger load. The hot tub, sauna, steam room are only for "Spa" customers at an additional cost of $149. The lockers made available to non-Spa customers were sorely lacking.

The crew seemed noticeably less interested in the passengers than I have experienced on other cruises. They seem to just go through the motions which is surprising for such a new ship.

MORE IMPORTANTLY. . .

If you fall into any of the following categories, you may want to think long and hard about cruising on the Splendor:

Smokers
There is no smoking on Lido deck. the only place you can smoke outside is the back of Deck 10 which cuts you off from ALL outside activity, music and the rest of the passengers. most smokers on the Splendor were incised and promised never to return.

If you enjoy sitting on the smoking side of the Lido and watching the TV, games and enjoying the comraderie, pass this ship by. I understand that the Dream will be pretty much the same.

Late Night Party People
At least 70% of the passengers were over 60. The average age of the passengers on this ship was perhaps 70. There were no large groups or organizations to explain the large number of older passengers (at least half of the passengers were over 70). I came to the conclusion that it is partly due to the economy in So Cal. Because of the age of a majority of the passengers, this ship was asleep tight by midnight each night.

If you want a lively, rah-rah environment that goes well into the night, pass this ship up.

Any Minority Group
There is no diversity in the passenger load. I would guess that the ratio is at least 97% white, 3% everything else. There was no large groups to explain this away. I spoke to someone in Mazatlan who was cruising on a NCL ship doing our same itinerary and they said it was the same on their ship. Hence, I take it that this is just a sampling of who cruises out of California. Of the 3,400 passengers, there were not more than 30 African American, surely less than 50 Latinos and a handful of other ethnic groups. Unless you truly do not mind being the sole minority in each and every setting and situation, this is not the cruise for you. (I had some people on that ship say some truly ignorant things to me. Both offensive and ignorant.)

Those Looking For the Usual Carnival Comraderie
I don't know if it is norm for California or the West Coast but other passengers I spoke to on this cruise mentioned that there was none of the usual friendly comraderie among the passengers. Most were very nice but by unspoken rule (custom?) most passengers stayed to themselves and you did not see a lot of cross chatter or interaction. I didn't notice this until my tablemates (who were all great btw) brought this phenom up during dinner.

All in all this is a much different cruise experience than what I have had cruising from the East Coast. For my vacation time and $$, I will stick with my Florida/New York/Puerto Rico ports of embarkation and leave California alone.

Finally, from my observation and my past Carnival cruise experience, there is no way, no how this ship is turning a profit. Too much of what makes these ships money was sorely lacking on the Splendor. I would not be surprised if this ship is not repositioned over to the East Coast within the next 18 months or so. It is not reaching it true potential as it is currently stationed.

P.S. Please do not debate me on my observations. They are only my experience and are not up for debate. This is what I saw. This is what I experienced and this is what I took from it.

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In 50 cruises, I've noticed that there were black people, white people, brown people, yellow people and people that spoke with strange accents on every one of them. What the proportions were, I do not know or care. But I would feel very sad indeed if the Racial Profile of a cruise was the determining factor in me having a good time or not.

I have noticed that the number one cut back on Carnival is in the cruise price! That is lower than low! If a few minor incidentals get cut along with a much lower fare, so be it! And the drinks did NOT get cut, just rearranged in time.
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Katlady, I only saw Fruit Punch at the past passenger and farewell parties.
This wason the valor last week.
Last on on Triumph, I had this fruit punch at the captain's party, past guest, and farewell party. These servers walk around with complementary beverages, so I tell them "no alcohol" and they will give me this tart pink stuff. No it isn't that bad !
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No argument here all of us have different experiences.
I am sorry to hear about your experiences... my sis and I enjoyed quite the opposite experience... in fact, we did get the free coctails and both the captain's party and past guest party.
We must have been one of the last cruised to get that. But then again, I don't recall a farewell party either, and if memory serves me correctly, the coctails at the farewell party were instead of the captains party.
The only drink I had that was $10 was a martini of some sort... I can't recall which one now... but we had drink coupons and we only had to sign twice for an additional fee.

Darn I was so hoping everyone here would have as good a time as we did. But I've never been on the east coast so I don't have that to look forward to... I will some day.

btw... pics coming soon.
ooops I meant to say, (regarding the east coast) I didn't have that to compare with since I hadn't been on any cruises on the east coast.
I still have that to look forward to.... Sorry about that.
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I feel sorry that you did not have the great experience that I had two cruises before you.

As for the lack of all access sauna in the Spa, there is one, but perhaps it wasnn't pointed out. I had a spa cabin, so I had access to tepidarium and thalasso pool. I loved those rooms and I must admit, it was quite relaxing and did wonders for my rickety knees, until the damn escalators/elevators in the location work ALL decided to go out of order and that meant walking up/down escalators!

The food always seems to be the same--tasty and plentiful. I guess it can vary from cruise to cruise!!!!!

As for the passengers--yes, it goes up and down. There was a good mix of people when I went and the deck party was just wild!!!!!

I must totally agree with you, the Splendor does NOT belong at Long Beach. They should bring a Spirit class back and leave it there. The ship is large and it would be best suited in the calm waters of the Caribbean. I would love to go back on the Splendor again, but I wish it was in the ported in South Florida instead of California!!!!! Carnival MAY in time move it when they realize that a smaller ship would work better. They could also change the route up and do different ports instead of the same boring ports....One time to Mexico is enough...If I was lucky and won the lotto again, I would do the ship again becase of some crew members I met and to really have time to enjoy to as my birthday cruise whizzed by too fast and I missed out on some fun stuff to do......
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Interestingly enough since the Splendor is too large for the Panama Canal, it might be stuck on the West Coast for a while. When they relocate her it might be some grand world cruise in that they would need to cross the world to get her to Florida?
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Take it back around South America and I will go once again as our 49 day cruise in Feb. was out of site. Am sorry that they can not fill on the west coast however they are bringing their newest large ship into the east coast for year round travel.
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I cruised Splendor on 9/20/09 and even tho I had alot of fun, I understand where you are coming from. I noticed the older crowd, 1.00 off drinks and would have smoked (I am a non-smoker, social smoker) if it were more readily available. I was mostly on aft deck 9 pool area and alot of the smokers had to go up 1 deck and smoke by themselves. (Sad) I will say that I had to jump in the hot tub and pool area to meet people and make cruise friends. I am over 50 and had a great time. I was quite surprised when some very fun african american gals got kicked out of the pool. I thought Carnival was the fun ship. I saw them later that afternoon in the pool and everything was cool. Just differences in fun I guess. I am sorry you didnt have a better cruise, I guess I would go crazy with fun leaving from a different port. Maybe next time I will venture out to the Carribbean.
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We took a cruise on Splendor in June when they altered the itiniary to Canada because of the flue. We had a great time and met with friends we made from meet and greet and meet on board threads. I didn't hear about the Captain recection not offering free drinks but I never go to them anymore. We were invited to some sort of frequent traveler party where they sold credits for future cruises and hawked Carnival stock. I bought 3 certificates for $100 each that are worth $200 on future sailings.(of course lots of free drinks) we cruise 3 times a year so that was a bargain. I also bought Carnival stock and got a credit $100 for my Nov. cruise. I bought and sold the stock several times and made enough to pay for the Nov. cruise.
As for diversity; I take cruises to get away from that kind of finger pointing. I never payed attention to what race my shipmates were and furthermore didn't care. We ate with a black couple from Pennsylvania and a couple born in the Philepiness (sorry I can't spell) and now residing in LA, and until this moment, I never gave a thought to their race. They are great people and we paled around with them some during the cruise and ports.
I have never been on any ship (and we have sailed them all except the 5k a week lines) where you couldn't find plenty of night life.
I have sailed out of nearly every port in America and have found that people are people and the experience is what you make of it. As for the crew, I thought the folks I dealt with were great and the ship and cabins were outstanding.
Smoking; my wife smokes but she never complained about going to an approved area. We were on Paradise once when it was smoke free, that was a bit hard on her.
My only complaint was that the audio was way to loud on that big screen mostser.
My suggestion to you is try to get your own group together or watch for group sailings with folks you have things in common with.
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Carnival has all sorts of offer and promotions to try to get people committed to another cruise.
Given the current economy, this is probably happening industry wide.
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Interestingly enough since the Splendor is too large for the Panama Canal, it might be stuck on the West Coast for a while. When they relocate her it might be some grand world cruise in that they would need to cross the world to get her to Florida?
They could put the Splendor on the Hawaii route. Start 14 day cruises from Long Beach to Hawaii. Or they could do Alaska cruises with it. The pool is enclosed, which means people could swim on an alaska cruise even if it's raining.
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Interestingly enough since the Splendor is too large for the Panama Canal, it might be stuck on the West Coast for a while. When they relocate her it might be some grand world cruise in that they would need to cross the world to get her to Florida?
They could put the Splendor on the Hawaii route. Start 14 day cruises from Long Beach to Hawaii. Or they could do Alaska cruises with it. The pool is enclosed, which means people could swim on an alaska cruise even if it's raining.
sign me up ! I'll even wear a lei with one of my many Hawaiian shirts.
Seriously though , Splendor to Alaska sounds like a swell idea to me, considering just how popular that itinerary is. Spirit holds 2100 ( double occupancy) compared to Splendor's 3000. That's about 900 more pax per sailing=$$$ in Carnivals pocket. Makes sense.
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I do not think that Carnival will move the Splender from Long Beach because they need a large ship (119,000 tons) to compete with the RCL Mariner of the Seas which is a large ship (138,00 tons). They both run the same route to Mexico. OM
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As with most things in life, any change, no matter how small, brings out the complaining spirit in some people who are inclined that way. Here's the truth of the matter.

I looked at the current bar menu and saw a couple of exclusive drinks that were over $10.00. Most alcoholic beverages were in the $4.00 to $6.00 range with daily drink specials. The average drink price is well under $10.00.

The non-smoking policy has changed only slightly. Guests who smoke have ample places to go to enjoy a cigarette, if they wish. Certain public areas are off limits just as it is in most public areas on shore.

Here is the exact statement regarding the changes in the Captain's party:

After our successful 3 month trial on the Carnival Valor where we tested this new version of the Captain's Cocktail Party now called Captain's Celebration, we are now moving this fleet wide to all our ships starting with cruises on 9/12/09 and onward. The only exceptions will be on the Carnival Ecstasy, which will start after dry dock in October and the Carnival Spirit, which will start after the 2nd Hawaii cruise in October.

The new version of the Captain's Celebration will be held along the Promenade Deck from 5pm-8pm (instead of as previously scheduled from 5pm-6pm and then again 7pm- 8pm) with cocktails available at $1 off the regular price for the duration of this time.

The Captain will then be introducing the Senior Officers right before the Production Shows at 8:20pm and 10:20pm.

Then at our Fun Farewell Appreciation Party at the end of the cruise, scheduled from 5pm-6pm, we will be serving free drinks to our guests.

As far as the crew is concerned, when have you sailed on a Carnival ship and found that the crew "is nasty and don't give a crap". I find that very unlikely.
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I agree with you. We just returned from our cruise on Oct. 11 and were very disappointed in the ship. The crew was great and we did have a large young crowd. But the changes did not make us happy campers:
1. The lack of smoking area. One couple was told they would be fined $250.00 if they smoked on their balcony!
2. The restroom were hard to find and very small. In order for 2 people to pass each other, one person had to step in a stall.
3. No beverages (ice tea, coffee, etc) out on the Lido deck near the pizza! You had to trail all the way back into the buffet to get a drink.
4. Very few coffee pots on the Lido deck. By the time I stood in line to get my coffee in the morning, my breakfast was cold. There were only 2 machines near the eggs and they often ran out.
5. A lot of blocked areas. We never could get up to the bow area. We have always been able to on other ships.

It takes a lot for me to complain. I heard many angry people and I think their concerns were valid. I also heard about the $1.00 discount instead of free but we didn't go.

I hope they move the Splendor. Bring back the Pride. We are planning a 20th anniversary cruise with family next year (Nov. 2010). We won't sail the Splendor again.
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I agree with you. We just returned from our cruise on Oct. 11 and were very disappointed in the ship. The crew was great and we did have a large young crowd. But the changes did not make us happy campers:
1. The lack of smoking area. One couple was told they would be fined $250.00 if they smoked on their balcony!
2. The restroom were hard to find and very small. In order for 2 people to pass each other, one person had to step in a stall.
3. No beverages (ice tea, coffee, etc) out on the Lido deck near the pizza! You had to trail all the way back into the buffet to get a drink.
4. Very few coffee pots on the Lido deck. By the time I stood in line to get my coffee in the morning, my breakfast was cold. There were only 2 machines near the eggs and they often ran out.
5. A lot of blocked areas. We never could get up to the bow area. We have always been able to on other ships.

It takes a lot for me to complain. I heard many angry people and I think their concerns were valid. I also heard about the $1.00 discount instead of free but we didn't go.

I hope they move the Splendor. Bring back the Pride. We are planning a 20th anniversary cruise with family next year (Nov. 2010). We won't sail the Splendor again.

The ONLY people who would be fined for smoking in their cabins are people with a SPA cabin. This is common knowledge for anyone who is booking this ship. So the other 90% of the cabins are still smoking as are their balconies. What a ridiculous statement to make about the cabins when 90% of them still allow smoking.

Yes, the entire Lido on the Splendor is nonsmoking because it is a covered area and is considered an indoor space (even when the retractable roof is open). This ship was NOT built for Carnival. It was built for Costa. But Costa did not have the bookings to accept it when it was finished...so Carnival took it into its fleet.


I am not debating the OP complaints about no free drinks... just correcting their incorrect information. NOTHING HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY IN THIS DEPARTMENT>

Yes, the Captain's Party has been changed. But there are still FREE drinks at the Farewell Party. So instead of the incorrect information that Carnival has taken something AWAY...they have actually ADDED something. Free drinks at the Farewell party AND discounted drinks at the Captains' celebration. Last time I checked...TWO events are more than ONE.

This was changed because cruisers wanted more "face time" with the Captain and officers. So instead of one quick hand shake....guests can now have a real conversation. And it lasts for 3 hours....

The complaint about the Spa lockers is ridiculous. The lockers are available to everyone. I did not have one Spa treatment the entire time I was on the Splendor and I used the lockers every day without a problem.

There is a reduction to one sauna/steam room which is co-ed...instead of the male/female rooms but this one is still FREE.

Again, this ship ADDED the option of a thalasso pool. Again, nothing has been "taken away" from the spa in the jaccuzi area....most Carnival ships do not have jaccuzi in the gym area.

Sorry that smoking is being more and more restricted. That is the world we live in today. Carnival bills itself as a "family" cruise line and the exposure of children to second hand smoke is no longer an option.

There will always be places for smokers to smoke...but the only folks that should be inconvenienced ...are the ones with the addiction. No one else should have to suffer for another person's habit. No one (not even a smoker) has the right to harm another human being. Cigarettes (just like alcohol) are legal...but that does not give anyone the right to inflict harm on a child.


I won't even try to understand the "minority" complaint. Like it is Carnival's fault who books a cruise????? We have sailed from almost every port .....and every port has a different demographic sailing from it.


At any one time...there are up to 60 countries presented on a Carnival Cruise line.

Now if that isn't diversity...I don't know what is.

Just because someone thought "a particular" race wasn't represented well....tends to make the complaint sound more like a racist one than a cruise one.
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I won't even try to understand the "minority" complaint. Like it is Carnival's fault who books a cruise????? We have sailed from almost every port .....and every port has a different demographic sailing from it.


At any one time...there are up to 60 countries presented on a Carnival Cruise line.

Now if that isn't diversity...I don't know what is.

Just because someone thought "a particular" race wasn't represented well....tends to make the complaint sound more like a racist one than a cruise one.
well stated ! I would say that cruise ships are some of the most multi-cultured, multi-race, multi- ethnic, color blind places around, at least with the crew demographics. I always find it touching when they proclaim something to the effect of....."on-board our crew is represented by something like 50 nationalities and we work together & live together in mutual harmony" I always say "AMEN" to that and may the world learn something from the "Fun ships"
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