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Chuck Palm January 23rd, 2012 12:54 PM

parallels and aņalogies
 
It is interesting to me how the press is overly sensationalizing the recent Concordia crash. A huge plane crash with hundreds killed would not receive near the coverage eventhough such event(s) would be far more tragic.

After living here in Patzcuaro, Michoacan, Mexico for 1.5 years, I see a lot of parallels and analogies. The press coverage of the "troubles" here in Mexico has been quite similar and never ending, while drug related murders and drive by killings are not even considered news in many larger U.S. cities. The press recycles and sensationalizes problems here in Mexico causing many people to be fearful about travel in Mexico.

In our year and a half we have experienced zero acts of violence and have felt safe at every turn, even as we drive all over the country.

As President Phillipe Calderon has said, " The only shots I have seen as a travel around Mexico are young people having fun and enjoying shots of tequila."

Many of my cruismates friends have expressed concern about our safety here in Mexico. I can assure them that we are quite safe just as we would be safe traveling by cruise ship anywhere in the world.

So the next time you read about a safety problem in Mexico, please question your news source and think about the similar kinds of crimes that may be happening in your home town before you jump to conclusions.

Also please come to Mexico and see for yourself what a wonderfully safe and beautiful place it is to visit or to live as an expatriate. :)

Aidan January 23rd, 2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck Palm (Post 1411452)
It is interesting to me how the press is overly sensationalizing the recent Concordia crash. A huge plane crash with hundreds killed would not receive near the coverage eventhough such event(s) would be far more tragic.

A plane crash where the captain intentionally flew low so the passengers could sightsee and then hit something would absolutely receive the same coverage, and would not be "far more tragic".

This event is getting the media coverage it deserves.

Lakers Fan January 23rd, 2012 02:49 PM

That is 100% accurate .

Aerogirl January 23rd, 2012 04:33 PM

I'll be in Mexico at the end of the year!

AR January 23rd, 2012 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Aidan (Post 1411466)
A plane crash where the captain intentionally flew low so the passengers could sightsee and then hit something would absolutely receive the same coverage, and would not be "far more tragic".

This event is getting the media coverage it deserves.

Correct and correct. "Tragic" is properly measured in many ways, of which the body count is only one. In the present case, there is the ongoing threat of an environmental catastrophe, which is a legitimate continuing story.

I pay close attention to the news, and I can go for weeks without hearing a word about Mexico, one way or the other--if you exclude the immigration issue.

Kuki January 23rd, 2012 06:50 PM

Chuck... while I appreciate your loyalty to the country you have chosen to call home, and am glad for the happiness you've found there, I don't think there's any analogy to be made.

We should all understand the media will over sensationalize anything. Just the way the media works.

But no can deny there is a continuing drug cartel war taking place in Mexico. It may not be occurring in your part of the country, or even near areas where most tourists might visit, but it is ongoing.

And if the level of the violence as a result were to be occurring in any US city or state, it would "make news".

Lakers Fan January 23rd, 2012 08:20 PM

The former SO of one of my friends relocated to Mexico in 2005 . Specifically to a town that has 362 sunny days a year ,where a dinner meal may cost as low as $1.00 and an apartment can be rented for $100 a month . However ,if the residents desire to go to any large city they must go in large groups and be armed .

Manuel January 23rd, 2012 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Henry43 (Post 1411473)
That is 100% accurate .

Yes it is.

This is not a small incident.


TM

Luanne Russo January 24th, 2012 10:00 AM

I am one of those who have worried about your safety, and continue to do so.

I am sure it is true, that not all of Mexico is dangerous, but it is difficult to overlook the reports coming out of your new country.

Overlooking reports of bodies being found, stacked together is something that would be reported, no matter where it was. Towns who have lost the entire police dept, due to murder of the officers, or fear of death, should be reported.

I have a friend Maria who has many family members still in Mexico, and she gives regular reports of the troubles they are going through. The places where they use to go, that are no longer available to them, because it is simply to dangerous.

Texas is being hit hard because we have become the major drug route to the north. Drug cartels are setting up shop here, so to better run their businesses. That is by the way, under reported. It would be different if it was American bad guys, but these are not Americans, but are those who break their first law, by entering this country without permission.

Something should be said about a country that you describe as being a great, safe land, who have citizens who pay money to get out on the back of trucks, in horrible conditions, in the middle of the night, in order to excape.

There must be something to it, when cruiselines refuse to stop in Mexican cities, where it is simplely to dangerous for the passengers. That is not something that is quickly decided, but took time, and great expense.

Yes, I continue to pray for you. I want you and your partner to be happy, safe, and reap the rewards of all of your hard work, but you are sitting on a hot bed.

Take care.....

Luanne


Manuel January 24th, 2012 12:42 PM

I have to put in my two cents worth.

The best country to live in is the USA. I was not even born here, but I love this country and would not live anywhere else.

TM

Lakers Fan January 24th, 2012 08:15 PM

I agree with Manuel but my second favorite country is Canada .I've vacationed there 17 times .

Manuel January 24th, 2012 08:24 PM

Canada is definetely a great country. I have been there a few times myself.

TM

Lakers Fan January 24th, 2012 08:36 PM

I've been to every province in Canada and many major cities except for Calgary .

MercedMike January 25th, 2012 11:50 AM

Safest?
 
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Originally Posted by Manuel (Post 1411641)
I have to put in my two cents worth.

The best country to live in is the USA. I was not even born here, but I love this country and would not live anywhere else.

TM

Ah, so true.

BUT -- when safety is the issue, we don't do so well. Somebody said there is a drug cartel war in Mexico. Right here in my little California town a kid can get killed for wearing a blue shirt into red shirt territory. The Crips and the Bloods conduct drive by shootings frequently. There are parts of my own home town where I would never walk, day or night. I would much rather cruise the Mexico than walk through the Asian Crips part of town.

Queen of Oakville January 25th, 2012 12:20 PM

off-topic for sure ... but thank you to those who stood up for MY great country.

Manuel January 25th, 2012 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Queen of Oakville (Post 1411859)
off-topic for sure ... but thank you to those who stood up for MY great country.

We just tell it like it is.

TM

Lakers Fan January 25th, 2012 10:55 PM

"America ,love it or love it "

Chuck Palm January 26th, 2012 12:25 PM

I guess I don·t understand the hostility and all of the U.S.A. flag waving on this thread. I did not say anything negative about the United States in my comments.

Being an "expatriate" does not mean one has given up their love for their country of birth. It simply means they choose to live in a different place. One should check their definitions prior to making assumptions and stating them.

I am of course proud to be a U.S. citizen. I will probably some day become a dual citizen but would not nor could not denounce my citizenship by birth.

As for needing to go into major cities in Mexico in large croups and with arms. That is absurd. I have visited every large city in Mexico on my own and I do not and would not own or carry a gun. Nor have I experienced any violence.

In fact owning a gun in Mexico is illegal. And most all of the arms in Mexico have been smuggled in from the U.S. where gun ownership laws are far more lax. And many of the Arms in existance here, were introduced through C:I.A. programs like Operation "Fast and Furious." This has had a destabolizing effect on Mexico, regardless of their intentions. Mexico has filed lawsuits in U.S. courts about this illegal practice. Phillipe Calderon is working on this serious issue through the courts.

I guess the bottom line is that drug cartels would not exist if people were not buying the drugs. And many of such purchasers and drug users are in the U.S.

So I guess these drug related supply and demand issues are complex and fingers can be pointed in more than one direction. Cliches like "America, Love it or Leave it" were worn out in the sixties and have become even more petrified over time. Or so it seems to me.

Manuel January 26th, 2012 01:14 PM

"America , love it or leave" is not a worn out cliche.

Mexico may be a great country, but it seems to me that most Mexicans are trying to get into the USA.

TM

Lakers Fan January 26th, 2012 02:56 PM

Exactly ,Manuel


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