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Old March 14th, 2012, 10:12 PM
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Question drug test question

quick question for those who have been hired.

if your drug test turns back negative, but the level checks provide traces of thc, will you be denied employment? this goes for any cruise lines, like carnival
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Old March 15th, 2012, 07:06 AM
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quick question for those who have been hired.

if your drug test turns back negative, but the level checks provide traces of thc, will you be denied employment? this goes for any cruise lines, like carnival
I dont know any of the cruise lines policys but a little common sence would tell you that a dirty test is a dirty test.I guess what it all comes down to is how bad do you want this job? Whats more important this job or smoking a litttle weed once in a while? You are the only one that can answer that question take care and good luck
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Old March 17th, 2012, 02:08 AM
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The International Maritime Organization requires that every crewmember on international ships must pass a drug screen test before being hired. This is the same test given to airline pilots.
All the major cruise lines also have onboard random drug testing nearly every week
Failing once before or during employment results in a lifetime employment ban.

The US Immigration authorities also insist that any international ship crewmember get a special visa to work on a ship in US waters. If you fail any drug test, they willl not issue that visa to you - ever.

Most cruise lines will not hire a crewmember who cannot get the US Visa.

Even a slight trace of thc on a drug test is a failure.
Note that thc stays in your system for at least three months or longer.
These tests are very sensitive. Even eating poppy seed cakes a few days before a test can result in a failure for opiates.

Sadly, the vast majority of Americans who take this drug test fail it. As a result, the cruise lines take a very hard look at any American who manages to pass the test. I am an American citizen who has passed this test countless times over the past 32 years, so it is possible.

We all have serious safety duties that require a clear mind 24/7.
If you are - or were - taking illegal drugs, we don't need you.
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Old March 17th, 2012, 09:26 AM
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I have an issue with hyper sensitive tests, if they are so sensitive they detect poppy seeds or that you have been in the same room as someone smoking "substances" this must be wrong surely?
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Old March 17th, 2012, 08:16 PM
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If the tests sere not so sensitive, and could not detect recent illegal drug use, you might have other issues.

When the airplane you are flying on is in trouble, would you mind if the pilot had taken LSD the week before and still passed his drug test?

If you were a passenger on Costa Concordia, would it bother you that the waiter assigned to save your life was smoking hashish that evening because he had passed his weekly drug test yesterday, and next week's test would not be sensitive enough to notice that he was stoned the night you were in danger?
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If the tests sere not so sensitive, and could not detect recent illegal drug use, you might have other issues.

When the airplane you are flying on is in trouble, would you mind if the pilot had taken LSD the week before and still passed his drug test?

If you were a passenger on Costa Concordia, would it bother you that the waiter assigned to save your life was smoking hashish that evening because he had passed his weekly drug test yesterday, and next week's test would not be sensitive enough to notice that he was stoned the night you were in danger?
What if that same waiter had been up most of the night drinking? Would that bother you as much as if he had smoked a joint a few days ago?Or if your airplane piolt was off with the stewardist parting it up the night before drinking?I agree I would rather not have my pilot or someone who is in charge in a critical situation stoned on drugs.But I really dont think that smoking a joint on your own time the night before work is going to affect your ability to do your job .So there we have a double standard,Drug test will show if you smoked a joint three weeks ago but not if you drank alchohol.Which the drug test is actually just showing a pattern in ones behavor.But wont show any pattern for alchohol.But I guess alchohol is legal so what are you going to do?
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If the tests sere not so sensitive, and could not detect recent illegal drug use, you might have other issues.

When the airplane you are flying on is in trouble, would you mind if the pilot had taken LSD the week before and still passed his drug test?

If you were a passenger on Costa Concordia, would it bother you that the waiter assigned to save your life was smoking hashish that evening because he had passed his weekly drug test yesterday, and next week's test would not be sensitive enough to notice that he was stoned the night you were in danger?
The biggest problem with these "drug tests" is that they only test for the least harmful of drugs, I can fail for drinking, eating a damn poppyseed muffin, yet people on PCP, Heroin, mushrooms, and crack cocaine will pass, so get off your ******* high horse and get a clue.
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If the drug tests are so firm, how does it work if someone has a prescription for it? Would they too not be permitted to get a US working visa?
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Old May 17th, 2017, 11:14 PM
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If the drug tests are so firm, how does it work if someone has a prescription for it? Would they too not be permitted to get a US working visa?
How many countries, do you suppose, permit their citizens to get Doctor' notes or prescriptions for medical marijuana use? You shouldn't have to do too much research to get that answer. Note that Americans do not normally need a visa to work in the USA.

Bear in mind that it is still illegal to bring marijuana into the USA; a doctor's note or prescription makes no difference. If a ship's captain knowingly allows his passengers or crew to carry marijuana into US waters on his ship, the captain is subject to arrest and the ship can be confiscated by US Officials. Do you think the Captain or the Cruise Line will take that chance?

How many countries, do you suppose, will put you in prison for a very, very long time if you try to bring marijuana into their country? The list is quite long. And they really don't care if you have a note or prescription from your doctor. When a ship enters the national waters of a country, everyone onboard has officially entered that country. Leaving banned drugs onboard the ship doesn't change anything. The drugs are already in the country.

The same rules that the US Feds have about a ship captain allowing drugs on his ship are the same or even more strict in many other countries.

Should the cruise line hire medical marijuana users, allow them to carry the drug onboard the ship, and try to avoid visiting any country that prohibits it? That would make for a rather bizarre itinerary - with many, many sea days - and no visits to US ports.
You can bet that any stops in the Philippiness would also be out of the question.
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Old June 13th, 2013, 05:19 PM
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Bruce Chafkin1 its completely deluded people like you who are ruining law and what it stands for. How you can sit there and tell people they can't have a trace of thc in their system but then go and have a drink and take the day off work hungover the next day. Look at science and how things really are before talking crap.
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