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Old November 9th, 2016, 03:19 PM
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Trump wins!
Republicans hold the House and the Senate! The next 2 years we should see alot get accomplished as a country!
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Things will be great.

We won't have to go to China to see the ''Great Wall''.

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Congratulations to Donald J.Trump on being the next POTUS .

Congratulations to the American people for having the opportunity to have Donald Trump as President.
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I will keep my comments on this down to one single point:
America is getting EXACTLY what we DESERVE. And we DESERVE President Trump. All kidding aside, we REALLY deserve him. And I truly hope we learn our lesson from it.
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Old November 10th, 2016, 09:42 PM
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Just as the Cubs surprised the world by winning the World Series ,Donald Trump will surprise the doubters by being a great President.
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Old November 14th, 2016, 10:07 AM
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Things will be great for the old billionaires who worship the almighty dollar.
But for the young poor and middle class and especially the children it will be a disaster. Pollution will increase in our waterways and the air we breathe.
It won't matter so much for me because I won't be around that long but it will affect my grandson quite a bit.
Women's rights will suffer and so will the rights of minorities.


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i think you are wrong ,Manny.I think that Trump has the potential to be a great President.
We shall see .
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i think you are wrong ,Manny.I think that Trump has the potential to be a great President.
We shall see .

His chief advisor is a white power lunatic and anti-Semitic . I am not in favor of a bunch of old racists running this country.
I also believe in the environment. We should clean up the Earth for our grandchildren to have a healthy planet to live in.


As a father, grandfather, husband, an immigrant and a person of Latin background, I don't see any positives in the next administration.


May God help us. I am afraid for the next generation.


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Trumps lack of experience in everything Government will be a real challenge for this country. With white extremist and hate group sympathizer Steve Bannon as his chief adviser what kind of advise do you think he will be whispering in Trumps ear.
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Trump will not even make a mediocre President.


His idea of applying tariffs to cars and car part from Mexico, while Japan, Korea and Germany are bringing in millions of cars is insane.


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Jared Kushner,Ivanka's husband is an Orthodox jew .I do not believe he would be in favor of Bannon if he was ant i semitic
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If what's happened in the last week is any indicator of what's to come..God give us strength....in actuality I think it will be President Pence.
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Yes, Bannon is anti-Semitic and a white supremacist.

Trump has no respect for anybody other than himself.

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Manuel, the nomination for Bannon is a disgrace. I wonder if his ego will allow him to rescind it...time will tell.
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Old November 18th, 2016, 08:33 AM
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Trip, I agree with you. Bannon is not fit to even get a job cleaning the toilets in the white house.
But that is the way Trump is. He offended women, minorities, immigrants, veterans and the poor working class. The way he mocked that disabled man insulted me to the max. I have a son and a daughter who are visually impaired. To pick on people with disabilities is going too low for a mature adult.
He thinks that is going to be an arrogant dictator with omnipotent powers such as Kim Jong-un.


I pray that things work out but I am worried for the future of the young generation.


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If what's happened in the last week is any indicator of what's to come..God give us strength....in actuality I think it will be President Pence.
The professor who in the past 8 presidential elections correctly predicted the winner and predicted Trump winning this election also stated that Trump will be impeached. He says Trumps ties with Russia and China runs deeper than anyone knows will be his undoing.
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Harry Truman would not allow jews into his house.They were required to meet hom on his porch.Millions of people will say Truman was a great President.
FDR another person lauded as being great turned away a boat carrying jewish passengers who werr later killed by the Germans.

Why not give Trump a chance ,you may be surprised.
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Why not give Trump a chance ,you may be surprised.

I am already surprised that someone who insulted so many people was elected president.


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I have to add that a man who is close to Steve Bannon might be a great racist or a candidate for the KKK, but not a great President.


Trump is not fit to be President.


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I really do not want to debate this .Let us just see what happens in 4 years.
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I really do not want to debate this .Let us just see what happens in 4 years.

I hope that we are still around 4 years from now. Time takes it's toll and we are not young.


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I am already surprised that someone who insulted so many people was elected president.


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How are you??

I have not been on these boards for a long time.

I am no Trump supporter but I do understand why people voted for him.

Many who are struggling financially don't care who he insults as long as he creates jobs. Now whether that will happen ..........

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Hi Manuel

How are you??

Annie

I'm doing OK and have survived tow major surgeries in a little more than a year.


As far as jobs go, we have many positions open here in Central Florida but they can't find workers to fill those jobs. In the town where I live there two contractors that are behind schedule in their house building because they can't get enough help.
Almost all the businesses in this are have had 'help wanted' signs for over a year.
I find that most people today will only accept a job in an air condition office sitting in front of a computer.


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Funny thing is that no one accused Trump of being racist before he ran for President! The reason Trump won the election is quite simple, people are tired of a government who does not respond to the needs of the people! If Trump can bring good manufacturing jobs back to the U.S. this will cure a multitude of ills in our society. I personally like the idea of Trump filling cabinet positions with good people, not just rewarding political backers as all other Presidents have done.
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Good people is not a term I would equate with a few.....others, time will tell...I'm going to buckle up, because I think we're in for quite a ride.....wishing my heart, that I never had to type these words.
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Trump has people of all races and religions working for him including Moslems .
In NYC there is a housing development ,Trump Village .Thousands of people live there ,again people of all races and all faiths .

I sincerely believe that he will be the best president of my lifetime and I go back to Franklin Roosevelt.
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LF, I think that you are going to be surprised. I also believe that the women and girls in your life deserve better than a man who no respect for women.


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He is not a miracle worker...no president has or will be..history already shows his unprecedented beginnings....pray for us all....and pray for him..

And for the record....I didn't like either candidate...
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Trip, I agree that the president does not have great powers. Which is a good thing with the incoming idiot and his racist advisor..
Congress makes the laws and passes the bills.


I am also praying for our future.


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Funny thing is that no one accused Trump of being racist before he ran for President! The reason Trump won the election is quite simple, people are tired of a government who does not respond to the needs of the people! If Trump can bring good manufacturing jobs back to the U.S. this will cure a multitude of ills in our society. I personally like the idea of Trump filling cabinet positions with good people, not just rewarding political backers as all other Presidents have done.
Trump has been accused of being racist since the '70's when he refused to rent out his apartments to African Americans. These words came from Trumps mouth. There are other instances too. His verbiage has not changed since then.
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