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Old April 19th, 2009, 11:00 PM
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This is my full review of the 12 night cruise I went on, I know it is lengthy (I am going to put it on some review sites) but if you got some time to kill at school or something, then here ya go...

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My review of Royal Caribbean Explorer of the Seas April 5th Cruise

After going on Carnival, Celebrity, and NCL for the past 9 cruises, my family decided to try something different. We booked a cruse on the Explorer of the Seas. I was very excited to go on a different line, especially Royal Caribbean because of how they seemed to compare to NCL. I went on with an open mind promising not to compare the two, and this is what I thought.

Getting on the ship: We left out of Bayonne, NJ. Getting on was a breeze. We drove there ourselves, and when we pulled up to the covered terminal 2 porters unloaded our car and took care of the bags. Check in was a simple; we went into a quick security check and then into a room for the actual check in. There was no lines, and very few people. On line, I was handed a letter signed by the captain explaining what I was not permitted to do as a teen cruiser. Check in took a little while because my dad and I share the same first name, but our seapasses were soon handed to us and we were off to get the security photo taken. My seapass looked just so wonderful with the two holes in it, a silhouette of teens dancing, and all sorts of restrictions listed on it. We then got on a shuttle bus and were off to the ship.

The ship: My first impression of the Explorer was good. Seeing it from the bus I got more and more excited. When I got on deck one, waiting for an elevator it didn't even feel like I was on a ship. We had to wait a little while. I then got off on deck 6, and headed to our balcony rooms. The rooms themselves were slightly better than NCL as far as size goes, however the bathroom was very small. The balcony was roomy and private. The bed was very comfortable and the couch was great as well.

Sail Away: Before we left port I went to the buffet to grab something to eat. The food tasted good. I found a spot on the deck and 15 minutes after sailaway we were under the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge and out in the ocean. I went back downstairs to unpack. By about 7:30 I decided to try and find Optix, the teen disco. I wanted to go to the meet and greet. I couldn't find it so I went downstairs, called reception and found out I had actually missed it. I was pretty disappointed. I went an hour late anyway and there were a few people left, talking. I didn't really join in on the conversation. Then we had an air hockey tournament and after I finished unpacking. I skipped dinner because I was sick and needed some rest. We were at the late seating and I heard my family of 4 was with another family of equal people, and they were amazing. I went to the welcome show, it was pretty good.

I came back to my cabin and again took a nap because my sore throat was getting worse. I woke up at 12:30 and and needed something to drink badly. My throat hurt really bad. At just a few minutes after one I went to the stairwell which was just 5 doors down the hall from me and started to walk down the one flight to deck 5. I was planning to go to Cafe Promenade, get some tea and bring it back to my room. As soon as I began walking down the steps, I heard somebody behind me. He told me to stop and I turned around and saw a tall man wearing a suit and an earpiece behind me. He demanded that I show him my seapass. Two other guards were standing next to him, apparently lower ranking than him. I showed it to him and he told me I was in violation of RCI's curfew and was to return to my stateroom immediately. I explained to him that I only wanted to get some tea because I wasn't feeling well. The response was "Thats too bad, you could have gotten it before 1 am, and that I better not see you again tonight." I told him that I am not trying to break any rules but I really did need something to drink. He then was extremely nasty to me, telling me that if I don't go back to my room then I will be brought to his boss. I really wasn't in the mood to argue, so I went back to my room. He followed me and told me he was going to be outside my room. He actually stood there for about 20 min. (I could see him through the hole). I was pretty upset about this but I went to bed and didn't even bother to get up till about 2 pm the next day.

The incident put me in a bad mood. But I did end up going to dinner that night and meeting the tablemetes, they really are amazing people and I am glad I met them. We are still in touch with them and will get together soon. Luckily sitting right next to me was a boy the same age as me. I got to become good friends with him and soon we had our own little group.

Towards the middle of the cruise, I began to go to Optix occasionally. There were always 2-3 guards standing outside. They would always check to see if our name was on the list and matched up OK before we were allowed inside. Once inside there were about another 3 or 4 guards standing in different areas watching us dance. I was unable to be myself because I just didn't feel comfortable with somebody standing against a wall staring at me the whole time but soon I got used to it. One night instead of hanging out with my usual group I went to check out the teen dodgeball which was listed in the teen activities. I was told it was too windy so we weren't playing. The teen director was trying to organize teams to play soccer instead, but she couldn't control anyone. There were about 60 kids there running around, grabbing the soccer ball from her, and then eventually the megaphone she was trying to use to get everyones attention. When all failed she walked away crying and the megaphone was smashed. I felt bad for her. I began talking to somebody there and ended up becoming good friends with him. The next night I met him in optix and talked to a girl, a friend of his. Turns out like me, she was on the Dawn many times and liked it much more than the Explorer. I then met a friend of hers that night, Sam. It was her birthday that very day. We all went to Cafe Promenade and like every night, were escorted back promptly at 1 am and forced to waste whatever food we weren't able to eat prior to the curfew. The next day we all met up, I was now friends with the three girls I met and we were going to go in the pool and see a show before dinner.

We all actually ended up going to Sam's room and hanging out. The time flew and we never made it to the pool, instead we went to the show and sat in the front row. The show was REALLY good, not because I was in it but because its quality was up there with NCL. Surprisingly, all the entertainment I saw on RCL was worse than NCL. It was pretty bad but this show was good. This guy John Joseph who played imitations of different classic rock artists started off his show with a bit of a comedy routine, feeding it off of members from the audience. We were sitting to the left facing stage, in the front row and I thought he wasn't going to get to us but he asked my new friends, the 3 girls sitting next to me, how old they were and where they were from. We told him it was Sam's birthday, she was sitting next to me. The whole theater cheered for her and then he started talking to me. He asked my name, my age, where I was from. Then he asked Sam if she wanted to make her cruise more enjoyable. Of course she said sure and next thing I know we were going on stage.

I looked out and saw the whole theater was full. I wasn't nervous or anything. He made me and her stand facing each other, and I had to look into her eyes and ask her "Do you know who I am" In a Zorro accent (he was joking about Zorro before we went up there) I couldn't understand what he wanted me to say because of the way he said it. It sounded like he wanted me to say "Do you LOVE who I am?" And I asked him if that was it. He said yup and put the mic to my mouth. Of course I said it wrong and the crowd went crazy with laughter. Then he made me say it right. It was pretty fun and after that things got a little bit more close between me and her. Everywhere I went in the ship people were saying my name and talking to me after that. Those next 3 days at sea were pretty fun. We hung out, now I had 2 groups of friends. We all got closer to each other.

Early in the morning of the last day at sea we began to sail through a powerful front off of Cape Hatteras. I have been through some pretty nasty stuff before, but this was bad. Force 10-11 gale, with 30ft seas. It was enough to leave everyone in bed that day. Most of the people who dared to venture out and eat got very ill. Things were getting broken all around the ship and all morning all you would hear was objects slamming into walls, plates breaking, and objects falling everywhere. I didn't get seasick; I really didn't mind it, but the strong smell of vomit which was present throughout the ship nearly caused me to get sick as well. That night, the last night, I went to Optix for the final time. The seas had calmed down to about 15 ft. We all danced. At times everyone was jumping up and down and dancing their heart out, and other times we slowdanced, especially since a lot of us had ended up in relationships like I did. It was amazing. You could feel the energy in there and even when the curfew came at 1 am, the 9 guards inside could not get us out of there. By 2 am they had the club closed, I was the last one out. I did my best to say farewell to everyone, never have I felt so sad saying bye to people before in my life. In those 13 days I made such strong friendships with the people I met I don't know how to explain it. I walked Sam back to her room, and we spent some time together, and then it was time to say goodbye. It was extremely hard saying bye to her, she lives in the UK so I don't know when I will see her again, if I even will. I cant find her on facebook and her email is messed up, but I am sure I will get in touch with her. It was these friendships that I had on the cruise which made it so hard to leave in the end.

Things I didn't like:

The teen activities were not organized well at all, that was a big disappointment to a lot of us.

The entertainment really was nothing special. Everyone agreed with me on that.

The security guards were a bit too much for me. I wanted to relax on this cruise and not be bothered constantly and watched. I eventually lost it, I just couldn't take being treated that way anymore. I was in an elevator with Sam and another friend of mine, he was 18. It was 1:05 am and we were heading back to our rooms. A guard comes in the glass elevator and begins asking me questions about her, and then he asks my fried too. He kept asking where we were going, if we were minors, and for our Seapasses. I told him I am going back to my cabin. He asked me the cabin number. I told him I was on deck 6, that was all I said. She was on deck 8 and the elevator was on deck 7 which meant I was riding it up to her floor because I was going to walk her back to her room. He asked me why I was riding an elevator up when my deck was down. It really pissed me off when he told me that I wasn't permitted walk back with her. He was really nasty to me, I cursed him off and he stepped outside the elevator to get another guard because apparently my poor choice of words at the time required me to be brought down to deck 1 and have my parents pick me up. As soon as he stepped out I closed the doors and we were gone. Even though I did curse him out, which was wrong, I felt he was way out of line treating me like that and telling me I wasn't able to walk my girlfriend back to her cabin. I found it hard to relax and enjoy my cruise when I was constantly being watched by them and chased out of Cafe Promenade every night at 1 am.

The itinerary: We had so little time in some of the ports that as soon as we got back from an excursion, we had to get on the ship. We weren't able to shop too much. The food was nearly the same every day for lunch/breakfast in windjammer and it was difficult to find a table. The ship layout was very different compared to the decks on NCL, that took getting used to.

The activities listed in the cruise compass which were planned to just sell something were numerous, they mainly consisted of art auctions, bingo, shopping seminars, poker tournaments, music, and of course the traditional pool games which all took place on one day. On NCL I enjoyed the seminars, games, activities, and just having fun with the cruise director staff at the various events held.


I did however like the cabins, they were nice. The fixed dining time was great, the same wait staff every night along with our tablemates made it wonderful. I actually ended up going ice skating during the storm on the last day, it was short but fun. I liked the solarium pool, very relaxing. Many of the crew members were friendly. I liked partying at times and just relaxing at others. The itinerary was nice, we went to Dominica, Puerto Rico, Barbados, Antigua, St. Marten, and St. Thomas.

Overall I would give this cruise a "C". I would rather go on NCL because all that really made me enjoy this cruise enough to make leaving it hard was the people I met. I don't plan to be sailing on Royal Caribbean in the future due to their policy of mistreating young adults.

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Old April 19th, 2009, 11:14 PM
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thanks for this. i will read it tomorrow in chemistry
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I'm glad you met someone! It sounds like you had a decent cruise in spite of how the security were treating you. Ive never heard of the guards treating their passengers like that. I dont blame you for cursing him out.. I more than likely would have done the same. All in all sounds like a good cruise (minus stupid security) =)
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yup it was the people that made it nice
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yup it was the people that made it nice
That's usually the case

Sorry to hear about your mishaps with security though. They seem to plague that whole fleet. Thankfully, but also sadly, I'm no longer a "teen" so I don't have to deal with them, but they did sour my opinion of Royal pretty badly. Up until the curfew, I had held Royal in very high esteem, but after one cruise with it, I figured out it was nowhere near worth the trouble. I started sailing exclusively on Carnival Corp. lines.
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yeah it was just too much. I feel like I was missing part of the cruise though. 10 cruises and I have never felt that way. I wasnt able to even go on the deck at night for walks, even by myself and look at the stars and enjoy what the ocean has to offer at night. That really upset me.

And another thing: I noticed that we were obviousely being watched on the security cameras because security would actually leave the area they normally partol just to bust us. For example, one night I went on deck 14 at about 1:30 and 5 guards who are from downstairs came to "get" me. And I have heard them talking on the raido about where we were after curfew. Its just frustrating, but never will I go again. Ever. Even if you gave me a free cruise with them in a penthouse suite I wouldnt go.
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Sounds like a fun cruise except for the security guards. That really sucks!
And that also stinks about you saying goodbye to your friend Sam. I guess she was a pretty good friend on the cruise.
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wow now I'm scared for my cruise! I'm leaving on the explorer 4th of July for a 5 day Bermuda trip. has anyone else experienced security on the explorer? are they always that strict?! also what other restrictions do teens have?
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wow now I'm scared for my cruise! I'm leaving on the explorer 4th of July for a 5 day Bermuda trip. has anyone else experienced security on the explorer? are they always that strict?! also what other restrictions do teens have?
Usually, when there is security, it is VERY strict from my experiences. And what pisses me off is that they try to make it sound like they are doing you a favor by telling you to go back to your cabin.
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sounds like you had a good cruise (despite security of course). i understand that they're trying to keep order and keep us hooligan teenagers in line...but is it REALLY necessary to be so rude about it?
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I know my review is very negative but I never mentioned one other security experience- its kind of funny (but still quite sad) in a way.

The last night, I was in the hall kissing my gf from the uk for the last time and I noticed I was being watched by 3 guards standing at the other end of the hall. After I said goodbye to her at 2 am, I just wanted to be alone and go for a walk. I went down the hall and the three guards were standing there, all Chinese guys. I said hello to them and asked them if they enjoyed watching people kiss. They ignored my question and asked me if I was a minor. I said "what difference does it make?" And walked away.

I went to cafe promenade and the same guard from the elevator was standing at the entrance and I looked him square in the eye and tried to walk past him. He put his arm in front of me and demanded to see my seapass. I was not in the mood to be bothered, I was kind of upset with the cruise over and saying bye to everyone and what not. I said "Im not in the mood for your sh-t tonight, so f--k off" and he stared at me shocked, while I took my time in there. I got coffee, talked to the lady behind the counter who gives the cookies/food for about 10 min, (I did every night, she actually remembered my name when I saw her in port lol) and walked out. He followed me saying "So your not going back to your room?" I asked him if he understood English well enough to figure it out and he didn't even say anything, just standing there gaping.

I was really pissed so I just went for a walk on the outer promenade and went back to cp at 4am. He was still there and I walked up to him and apologized for cursing him out and we shook hands and believe it or not, 5 minutes later him and I was sitting at a table drinking coffee and talking. I asked him about his family; he has a son and a wife back home. He even showed me his sons picture which he had in his wallet. He asked about me too. Believe or or not we sat there for about an hour talking . He works over half the day and at night trying his best to do his job and save up money to send home. I told him that I really didn't mean to treat him the way I did, it wasn't personal and I knew he was just doing his job. He said that he himself feels really bad about the curfew too but obviously is required to enforce it, especially during the cruise I was on because his boss was watching him closely. He may actually get promoted to a supervising position maybe on oasis so he was under extreme pressure.

I felt better having that conversation, and I really want to say that I don't hate these guards, they are only doing their job and it is really the cruise line itself that is creating the unwelcoming atmosphere for teens to cruise in.


Bottom line, Never again will I go on royal as a teen, maybe not at all even as an adult, even though the oasis does look tempting

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I really think that only the younger kids should have a curfew. On all my cruises, if/when there was trouble it was always the 12 & 13 year olds whose parents didn't care what they did or where they were that were causing the problems. I feel that at 15-17 we're responsible enough to make the right decisions and not trash the cruise ship. If anything, we should have a bit later of a curfew instead of one straight curfew for anyone under 18. Giving a 17 year old the same curfew as their 8 year old sibling doesn't really make sense.
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I agree. I have been on cruises with no curfew and the 11-13 year olds, id say, would be the ones doing stupid things such as throwing food, hanging out in the elevators/stairwells and pressing and breaking every button/ being rude to guests ect. I have seen fights (one kid got a concussion for example) and destruction(breaking glass tables in half)

But this mainly happened during the day. At night, I would be with friends in NCL's 24 hour "Blue Lagoon" at 4 am without any problems. Only time I saw a kid told to return to his room on NCL was after he was standing on a table and wouldnt get off. I think all the other cruise lines approach which it to simply respond to disturbance and monitor kids is better then flat out restricting us from the cruisng experience.
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My 17 yr old son and his friend had the same type of trouble. They took their cards and they were told they would go into the holding cells.

They followed them everywhere.

The activities staff we found were even a little racial as they let 14 yr olds play in the 18+ games but wouldn't let the 17.5 kids play in it.

I only rated EOS a C also.

Will have to try another cruise line.
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You should go on Carnival. You get the same card as everyone else and they don't give you a list of rules when you are checking in. Also there is no curfew and a lot less rules on Carnival.
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you know..i've been on 2 cruises with RCL and i enjoy them very much..not once have i had trouble with security....i've been out at 2am and talked 2 them and they have never hassled me about my seapass...only time i seen security give some1 a hard time is when they were causing trouble so no offesne to you peter i think u r either over exaggerating or leaving a part out...and im only 17 (a minor) and never had a run in with the security...latest i stayed out was 4am and never had trouble
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you know..i've been on 2 cruises with RCL and i enjoy them very much..not once have i had trouble with security....i've been out at 2am and talked 2 them and they have never hassled me about my seapass...only time i seen security give some1 a hard time is when they were causing trouble so no offesne to you peter i think u r either over exaggerating or leaving a part out...and im only 17 (a minor) and never had a run in with the security...latest i stayed out was 4am and never had trouble

i doubt he is over exagerrating. not all security is the same. some may be rude and strict and others may be nice and laid back. and you werent on the ship with him so you dont know how it went...just saying
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ur right i wasnt there with him but im just saying...i have never heard such a negative review from a teen cruiser and i just found it highly unlikely that you be treated that way...i mean do you honestly thing a cruise staff member would tell you 2 go back to ur room if u had a sore throat and wanted a cup of tea and they knew that??? come on now even strictest security guards arent that rude....idk ik security can be tough on some people but i jsut dont see them coming up to you and asking for your seapass or not even let you walk some1 to their room
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ur right i wasnt there with him but im just saying...i have never heard such a negative review from a teen cruiser and i just found it highly unlikely that you be treated that way...i mean do you honestly thing a cruise staff member would tell you 2 go back to ur room if u had a sore throat and wanted a cup of tea and they knew that??? come on now even strictest security guards arent that rude....idk ik security can be tough on some people but i jsut dont see them coming up to you and asking for your seapass or not even let you walk some1 to their room
Believe me, I was shocked too. He didn't care at all, he was the boss, and to him I was just another one of the 3500 people on board. I state the truth, I say things like they are- RCL sucks, and my review is not completely negative. I am sure that not all ships, sailings, itineraries, and times of the year are the same on royal, but my cruise was one of the worst on the 10 I have been on and pretty much everyone I was with, even my friend who was on over 10 agreed. It was just way to strict and not at all relaxing, and there is no way I would pay $ to be told I cant enjoy a cup of tea at 1 am.

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do you honestly thing a cruise staff member would tell you 2 go back to ur room if u had a sore throat and wanted a cup of tea and they knew that???
Prior to sailing with this line, I honestly would too find this hard to believe if I read it online. Seems he just didn't care. He was even nice enough to walk me back to my room and, told me "I wont be seeing you anymore out past 1 am on this cruise, or the guest conduct policy will be enforced." That's nice. It was the first crew member I got to talk to on the cruise. I felt so welcomed.

Its perfectly cool that you try to defend royal, you are loyal to them as I can see but I am absolutely positive that if you were on my sailing for just ONE of the 12 nights, you would feel VERY let down. I am not going on royal as a teen again and I highly recommend against sailing with them as a passenger under 21 (even then they will be watching you, they watched my friends mom and FOLLOWED her when she left a bar with beer, because they right away suspected her of buying it for a minor) NEVER on ANY other cruise line will you feel like this, I can guarantee that for sure. Those are the facts, and if you or anyone has any further questions then please, ask away, I am happy to help
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idk i still have a hard time believing they would hassle you so bad and you werent doing NOTHING wrong...idk though
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idk i still have a hard time believing they would hassle you so bad and you werent doing NOTHING wrong...idk though
Believe me, they do. And they don't stop.
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okay well whether it's true or not, you don't need to publicize it so much. Most people have read your review and that's enough, there is no need to bring it up any time you get the chance. I am going on explorer this summer and reading your review made me a bit less excited, but for you to keep bringing up your "bad experience" its a bit obnoxious. I don't care if you had a bad time, it doesn't mean that everyone sailing on explorer or any other rccl ship will have a bad time.
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okay well whether it's true or not, you don't need to publicize it so much. Most people have read your review and that's enough, there is no need to bring it up any time you get the chance. I am going on explorer this summer and reading your review made me a bit less excited, but for you to keep bringing up your "bad experience" its a bit obnoxious. I don't care if you had a bad time, it doesn't mean that everyone sailing on explorer or any other rccl ship will have a bad time.
Are you talking to me, or to the original poster?
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okay well whether it's true or not, you don't need to publicize it so much. Most people have read your review and that's enough, there is no need to bring it up any time you get the chance. I am going on explorer this summer and reading your review made me a bit less excited, but for you to keep bringing up your "bad experience" its a bit obnoxious. I don't care if you had a bad time, it doesn't mean that everyone sailing on explorer or any other rccl ship will have a bad time.
i completely agree with you bri...peter no offense man but on any forum that mentions royal carribean you take the time to tell every1 it sucks and that IS annoying man. i talked to my grandparents about his review b/c is sounded over exagerated or missing some pieces and they agreed..they have been on TWELVE royal carribean cruises and never seen a security person give some1 trouble unless they were doing something wrong..so peter i think u got in trouble and are pissed off about it so ur taking it out on the cruise line. honesly man if u told a security guard to go f**k themselves they wouldnt have jsut let you walk away you would be down on Deck 1 having ur parents have 2 come down and get you...so if ur gonna write a review include the whole review not just pieces
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I have been on RCCL before and after the curfew implementation. Let me give you an unbiased review if you feel Peter is being biased. Let this be noted that the review is 100% true, and contains nothing false or biased.

I sailed on Navigator OTS in the late summer of 2004 - before the curfew was implemented. We got a couple of extra days on free of charge because of a hurricane, and nonetheless, still one of my top ranked cruises. I was convinced RCCL was a good solid cruise line (I had been on CCL, Princess, NCL, and RCCL prior to this sailing).

In 2006, after the curfew was implemented on all RCCL ships, I sailed Adventure OTS. I understand its not Explorer - the original ship discussed, but any ship out of the RCCL fleet will suffice for informational purposes. The curfew was enforced every last waking night, including the final one. At 1am, the security guards would hold a little party right outside the teen club so that when we walked out we wouldn't "forget" the curfew. Personally, I saw this as way too far as no one was doing anything. Sometimes, we would sit on the steps right outside the club (the ones headed up to the Viking Crown Lounge) and occupy only half the staircase in case people wanted to pass. at 1:15 am we were threatened to be escorted to our staterooms. EVERY NIGHT. On the final night, I decided to stay up with a traditional all-nighter so I could see the ship dock in the morning. At 2am I went to the basketball court and was informed by a security officer that I had been generously been given an extra hour out and that I needed to head back to my stateroom. I went downstairs, and outside to the outdoor promenade on deck 4. At 3:30 am security comes walking. Needless to say even though I was outside for "fresh air", I was carded and booked (they were carrying little paper pads). It was then I decided that RCCL did not deserve my business nor my parents money.
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I sailed on Navigator OTS in the late summer of 2004 - before the curfew was implemented.
I was on Voyager of the Seas July of that same year, 2004, and they strictly enforced the curfew.

That was the only RCL cruise I ever took. Overall, it was a pretty good cruise. Security was pretty anal, me and the friends I made on board were threatened to be "booked" or whatever they do at 1:30 PM, in the AFTERNOON! They said we were being to rowdy. We were the only ones in the lounge, sitting around, talking about where we were on 9/11.

Other than that, it was a pretty good cruise. The Krooze Klowns (or however they spell it) were great, the random "street" dancing in the Royal Promenade was awesome.
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I sailed on Navigator OTS in the late summer of 2004 - before the curfew was implemented.
I was on Voyager of the Seas July of that same year, 2004, and they strictly enforced the curfew.

That was the only RCL cruise I ever took. Overall, it was a pretty good cruise. Security was pretty anal, me and the friends I made on board were threatened to be "booked" or whatever they do at 1:30 PM, in the AFTERNOON! They said we were being to rowdy. We were the only ones in the lounge, sitting around, talking about where we were on 9/11.

Other than that, it was a pretty good cruise. The Krooze Klowns (or however they spell it) were great, the random "street" dancing in the Royal Promenade was awesome.
I think they started on some cruises in 2004, I must have gotten lucky then.
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Btw, I got your message-

"hey i got a question....you have been on 1 RC cruise but you completely trash them every chance you get...what's the deal man?? RC is a great cruise line...i've heard of professional criticism but ur just out to ruin a great line's name"

Do you work for RCL or somehing? Seriously, you went on 2 cruises. You liked them. But you have no other line to compare to. I am not looking to start an argument with you. I am just saying what I saw and seems a lot of people who are on here are agreeing with me, RCL is really not that teen friendly. No big deal. I am glad you like them, and I am not at all looking to "ruin a great lines name"

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hey I didn't realize that there were responses here since I last came on, I just want to say, I do not at all go on other forums and "take every opportunity I have to ruin a good lines name" as you state.

There are no bits and no pieces missing from the story. If you don't like me, the truth, or my review then fine, there is no need to stay here wining to us about it, and there is no need for you to send me any more messages either.

I get the point- You like RCL and you want to make it clear to everyone. I hear you.
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