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Old January 30th, 2007, 01:21 PM
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Any one cruising on the Veendam Sept 20, 2008 Panama Canal / Amazon River cruise? 8)
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Old July 18th, 2008, 12:41 AM
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Default Veendam- 9/30/08 - San Diego - Amazon

Hi,

I just joined this group, and looked for my cruise. Has anyone else signed up? I am taking the train to San Diego, and spending 2 nites at the Holiday Inn across from the port.

I am a retired school teacher, traveling alone, and love to snorkel and beach it. I am looking into the tours now. Booked the snorkeling in Cabo, and beach day in Acapulco.

I am booking a private snorkeling tour in Huatulco]. I had to do this 2 years ago because HAL doesn't book any snorkeling tours there and this is the best place. When I get the information I will post it on this site? If anyone is interested please let me know on this site. Also I booked the butler Service private yellow Cabana for Half Moon Cay. That is a real pampering splurge and hope to find others who want to share it with me.

I booked the over nite jungle stay in Brazil. Have you booked any excursions yet? I am looking into more snorkeling trips in other stops.

Hope to hear from others on this cruise.

Judy - Oregonskier
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We will be joining you on this cruise as well and are looking forward to it very much. We are also taking the train to San Diego, but we will be staying with family until we board.

Both of us are retired (radiologist and school librarian) and enjoy cruising. We haven't booked any excursions yet, but are bringing along our snorkels and masks to use in the Caribbean.

The one port that has me confused is Puerto Chiapas in Mexico. So far, no excursions have been listed specifically for our cruise, but on HAL's web page under "destinations" there are several. Has anyone looked into this? This is one place we would want to take the ship's tour (the one to the ruins) but until it becomes available, I guess we'll have to wait.

Looking forward to meeting you.

Kersti and Rich
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yes my husband and I will be on this cruise, as yet I have not found the excursions, have looked on the HAL web site, I have received our tickets but there was no book included with excursions (received them with past cruises). I guess there will be tour operators at each port. We will get the train down from LA the day before and also be staying at the Holiday Inn near the port. Will do a city tour in the morning at San Diego before joining the cruise.
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Hello All;

We will be on the cruise, we are catching it in Vancover BC. We already have all our travel docs and have booked an outside tour in Costa Rica for ziplines and jungle gondola ride.

We have reservations for a private all day tour on Manaus. The guide will meet us when we get off the ship, take us for the day doing jungle visit, meal, dolphin spotting, monkey island, lake january, paranah fishing, sunset watching and then alligator flashing at night before returning us to the ship.. He quoted a private tour for the two of us at $140 R...that's about $110 dollars each for a full day. Also included is bottled water and a meal of regional dishes.

We hope to pack light, but OMG 36 nights!

Sandy and Bob
Placerville CA

P.S. when we booked the trip it was $300 less to leave from Cananda than San Diego, including air fare!!
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Hi All,
I have feelers out to 3 different tour guides for setting up a visit to Mayan ruins , lunch and whatever else we want. As soon I get any info I'll let the board know.
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Thanks Al!

Is this at Puerto Chiapas? We're interested to hear what you've found out.

Kersti and Rich
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Please note: I sent Dan an email informing him of the wrong date as of this email I haven't heard back from him. If interested in this excursion please contact me at nikond@version.net.
Thanks,
Al Stasi


Al Stasi- You've provided me the exact date of Oct. 5, 2008 on the cruise ship- "MS Veendam". The available tour day hours of 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. and a return to ship time of 4 p.m. for sure party of 2 and or with possible additional tour members to be added before or on Oct. 5, 2008. Your Full 1 Day Tour will include: 1st a.m.-the Ruins of Izapa, 2nd Meal-Lunch/Beverage, and 3rd p.m.- City of Tapachula Tour to be completed in exactly 1 Full Day.

PLEASE READ AND REVIEW CAREFULLY THE EMAIL ATTACHMENT TO THIS EMAIL MESSAGE: "Chipas Mx Izapa Ruins-City Tapachula Info tour.doc"-- which provides background information/description and photos about Izapa Ruins and City of Tapachula.


You will have a bilingual/driver/guide: a. meet you holding a sign ["Al Stasi Group"] at 8 a.m. @ you cruise ship, and b. board a air-conditioned vehicle/or vehicles[if requires more group members] with cooler of bottled water avaiable for the day's drive.

Chiapas Full Day Tour Itinerary:
1. Port Chiapas Group 8 a.m.-Pickup by driver, 2. Departure Morning Tour-Drive to Ruins of Izapa, 3. Group Meal-Lunch/Beverage, 4. Afternoon-City of Tapachula Tour and 5. Vehicle/or vehicles-Return to ship by 4 p.m. to Port Chiapas.

Chiapas Full Day Tour Cost: a. Full tour cost per person-$130.00,
b. a $30.00 reservation deposit per person due immediately by mailing a check[made payable to Dan Tracy] for the cost on exact number of persons by verbal commitment [given from group leader-Al Stasi to Sportventure] on or before Sept. 26, 2008,
c. for the $30.00 pre-paid reserved group members: the balance due amount per person of $100.00 U.S. to be paid/collected in hand-- to the day tour driver from pre-paid list of reserved individually named [Al Stasi] group members in Port Chiapas at 8 a.m. on Oct. 5, 2008,
d. any additional tour member of Stasi group[with maximum size of no more than 8 to 10 members total] added to the group member list for the 1 Day tour after the pre-payment date of Sept. 26, 2008- ***NOTE*** - will be required to pay -- the full day tour amount per person of $130.00 U.S. /and collected by driver in hand in Port Chiapas at 8 a.m. on Oct. 5, 2008 prior to departure by vehicle/or vehicles,
E. the day tour does NOT INCLUDE- any tip, gratituties and personal items purchased during the tour day.

Al- Recall by telephone conversation this p.m. Sat.- that I will be out of town from Mon., Sept. 15 and return p.m. in office on Fri., Sept. 19. for any further question, details or additional concerns to be completed.

Thanks Regards Dan Tracy, owner, Sportventure



Chiapas,Mexico: The Ruins of Izapa and City of Tapachula
The Central Valley highlands and steaming jungles of Chiapas hold some of Mexico's most fascinating archaeological records of the Mayan civilization, strongholds and ceremonial centers, among which is the site named Izapa. The site of Izapa is located along the Pacific coastal piedmont of Chiapas in a location that sat at the juncture between Mixe-Zoquean-speaking peoples to the West and Mayan-speaking peoples to the East. Although there is evidence of occupation at the site during the Early Formative, the site reached its height during the Late Formative period (300 BC - AD 250). The site is most famous for the many stelae that were erected in combination with carved and plain altars. These were placed within large quadrangular plazas that were bounded by pyramidal mounds. The quadrangular plaza of Group B was the focus of ritual activity by 300 BC. While the Group B plaza contains many stela-altar combinations, it is most famous for its triadic arrangement of pillars. Each of the three pillars, measures about 130 cm tall, holds a stone sphere that is about 70 cm in diameter. The triadic arrangement of the pillars was the earthly equivalent of the Three Hearthstones of Creation, which were also reflected in the night sky in the three stars in the belt of the constellation Orion.


The site is large - with more than eighty temple mounds - and important for its evidence of both the Olmec and early Maya cultures. Izapa culture, in fact, is seen as a transitional stage between the Olmecs and the glories of the Classic Maya period. Even though many of the best carved monuments have been removed to museums, including the Anthropology Museum in Mexico City, you can still see early versions of the rain god Chac and others in elaborate bas-relief. Founded before 1250 BC, Izapa continued to flourish throughout the Maya Preclassic period, until around 300 AD; most of what remains is from the later period, perhaps around 200 AD, and the site continued to be occupied until the Post-Classic.
On the northern side of the there's a ball-court, and several stelae, which, though not Olmec in origin, are carved in a recognizable Olmec style, similar to monuments at other early Maya sites. The southern side is a good deal more overgrown, but you can spot altars with animal carvings - frogs, snakes and jaguars - and several unexcavated mounds.
The City of Tapachula

Tapachula, Park Benito Juárez House Of Culture-In Municipal Palace
Old Municipal Palace San Agustin

Volcano Tacana
IZAPA - Izapa is located on the Guatemala - Chiapas border just south of the Volcano Tacana near the city of Tapachula. Izapa is also very close to the Pacific Ocean. The location of this city had large consequences for the inhabitants since it was far removed from the rest of the empire. Its closest Maya neighbor was far away, which in those days was a journey that could only be taken by foot, since the Maya did not use the wheel or beasts of burden for transport. The city is very old in terms of the civilization and flourished from around 300 B.C. to 50 A.D. While the city was far removed from the "empire" it still was very Maya in architecture and contained temples, large stairways and monuments containing hieroglyphics of calendars. The site is large (nearly 1/2 square mile).

There is also a small museum located in Tapachula with artifacts from Izapa on display. The museum is located in the town center by the Zocolo.
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Hi,

I have organized a meeting in the Crows Nest at 4:30 Oct 1st for another group from a different board. Please anyone on this this board who would like to meet join us. I did this with Holland American.

I am really into snorkeling and would like to meet others. Have a great snorkel trip for half day in Huatulco. It is $60 and with Hurricane Divers. I have gone with then a couple of years ago and it was fabulous. In Aruba I am trying a snorkel trip with Red Sails. Both of these tours have web sites. Contact me at towerskier@gmail.com or come to our get together in the Crow's Nest for more information.

I like the tour for Puerto Chiapas, but am nervous about getting back to the ship in time in such a primitive area. I am wondering about snorkeling there, but can't find out any information.

Only 2 weeks to go!

Judy "Oregonskier"
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